Episode Transcript
Speaker 0 00:00:00 So welcome to today's proper golfing podcast with myself, Joe Cameron
Speaker 1 00:00:04 And And Julia Bella. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:00:05 From Proper Golfing. So today's podcast is entitled How A 40 Yard Gain Happened in one lesson. So how one guy came here and got 40 yards extra. Yeah. So our podcast is about real people, real data, real results. So let's just crack on and we'll tell you how we get the data soon. So about another busy week. Anyway,
Speaker 1 00:00:28 We always have busy weeks, Joe. Yeah. But Harry came in, he's 68 years old. He's been playing over 40 years and lost a significant amount of distance thinking it was his age. That was the barrier and never thought he could gain it back. Yeah,
Speaker 0 00:00:43 That's typical of the people that we get through here, isn't
Speaker 1 00:00:45 It? Yeah. It's
Speaker 0 00:00:46 Typical case study. So what did you do apart from working magic in an hour?
Speaker 1 00:00:52 It's astonishing, Joe. The first thing that no people really appreciate is the fact that they're super tight, right? Yeah. Yeah. Tension is a massive issue for golfers through trying through the unknown of muscle tension and how much it slows things down and thinking that they're gonna hit it harder if they grip it tighter, which is, you know, we've a hundred percent proven that is not the case. Yeah. Shows
Speaker 0 00:01:20 Have done it. Shoulders. Arms everywhere.
Speaker 1 00:01:23 Yeah. Shoulders is the biggest place where we see it. Obviously in the hands. Forearms lower back is also a massive place where they have it. And also mental tension, Joe, you know, we talk about that all the time, don't we? That? But when they think they can't, they can't. But actually we can show them how, how we
Speaker 0 00:01:42 Do do it. Yeah. You know, pressure on the first tee or you know, definitely. And do pressure on the competitive side of things as well. And you know, can bring out all those things kind of.
Speaker 1 00:01:50 Yeah. We see, we see that all the time. So that was the first thing that we saw it. So his tension level, we, I like to score it out 10. So if you can measure it, you can change it. He was about an eight, outta 10 maximum you need to be is five and ideally four is even better. Real issue with the club face as well. So he was holding the club face open again through gripping it too tight. He couldn't release the club correctly and a real issue with what we call weight transfer through misbeliefs. There we say that. So he was taught and practiced it very well to keep his head down. Now we both know what, what happens when people start to, to keep their head down too long, they can't transfer the weight. If you're not transferring your weight, you're gonna miss out on your potential distance. And so the first thing that we worked on with Harry was getting him to do some relaxed breathing. So taking that deep breath in, holding it, breathing out, and then pausing and then recycling that motion. So what that does is it creates the physical tension when you breathe in. You appreciate that physical tension when you hold it and then when you release it, it's where you start to feel that release. So you and I have done, we do this well this daily, don't we? Yeah. I'm just
Speaker 0 00:03:15 Thinking about the data and the vault though, because I told you this is real data, real people. So for nearly a year now, we've been collecting the data from every single lesson. Okay. Yeah. So, and then we use, you know, our data capture systems to work out patterns and it's remarkable, isn't it? So the breath out, clearly that moment before people hit the ball, when there's a space before they hit the ball, the outcome is so much better as well. It much better we'll cover that in a, in another podcast, but you won't get that data anywhere else. 'cause that's mind blowing, isn't it?
Speaker 1 00:03:47 Yeah. And and what we've also recognized, again through the patterns, and we can, you know, we can read the results from, from the simulator. 73% of golfers who've got tight shoulders hit the ball to the right. 73%. That's astonishing, isn't it? I looked at it. If you wanna hit it right, tighten those shoulders up,
Speaker 0 00:04:06 It's great. I mean, yeah, if you've followed us before you, we will have talked about attention before. But it is one of those things that's not very well taught anywhere, is it? You know, these gains that we get for people are like with no positioning. Yeah, sorry, no positions are they, you know, no, you aren't gonna go in the gym or anything. They're real changes that you can do to transform your golf game. So what would the, so we got him to do some stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:04:28 So the breathing. So we're getting him to relax much better. Yeah. Yeah. That means his body's gotta be functional now and now it can move freely, locks up tight, he can't do it. The second thing was releasing the club face. So his habit was to hold the club face open, leading with the left hand because it was so tight he couldn't release a club face. He was adding anything up to 10 degrees of extra loft onto his golf club because the club face was so open and that meant that the shot instantly started off to the right as well. So when we got him to relax, he was then able to use his dominant hand, which was his right hand, where he could actually release the club face efficiently. Now what happens then is not only do you bring the club face back to square, so it's gonna start in a better direction.
Speaker 1 00:05:13 You are also now introducing the correct loft to the golf ball. So instead of adding loft, let's say for example he was hitting a seven iron, the loft, he was hitting it before was like an eight or even a nine, nine loft. But when we got him to release it correctly, it'd gone back to that seven eye loft. So instantly you're going to gain distance. But it was also the movement through impact Joe. So once he'd released the club and we got him to release his eyes, nobody talks about the eyes, do they? Everybody talks about the head, but the eyes turn the head, the head moves the body, then you can get into that full finish. So not only did we get him to release the club better, because he was more relaxed once his eyes followed the flight of the golf ball that turned his head, his head, his body could then move. Then he was getting mass behind the shot as well as clubhead speed. And that's where we saw that 40 yard gain off the tee 40 yards. And that was no exaggeration. I mean we've captured all the, the data and we can, well we've data tested to
Speaker 0 00:06:10 Here, isn't it? That's why our
Speaker 1 00:06:10 Share that built on
Speaker 0 00:06:11 Actual data, isn't it, at the end of the day. But that's like without effort as well, isn't it?
Speaker 1 00:06:15 You know? Yeah. It's not our, it's not an opinion, it's not our guesswork. It's actual facts. And we, and you know, we saw it, but what was astonishing is he couldn't believe it. Could he? I
Speaker 0 00:06:25 Know. I mean the reactions were amazing. Again, we capture all that. So anything that you see on our website is 100% true what people say, isn't it? Yeah.
Speaker 1 00:06:32 We can prove everything. Yeah. Which is nice
Speaker 0 00:06:35 Because it's actual words from actual people. Yeah. So what about the outcome then? So an hour with you and he's happy Tty poop.
Speaker 1 00:06:43 Yeah. So well, not only is he hitting it longer, he's also hitting it straighter right now that's taking pressure off his second shots into the green. Okay. 'cause he's 40 yards further up the fairway than he's, than he is been for a long time now because the pressure's gone off that one mentally, he's now calmer because his confidence has shot up, his effort's gone down is golf starting to improve? But what's exciting then is we're able then to give him practice plans where he can go and work on those at home. Now, if you've got 1, 2, 3 minutes, a day is all you need to start to improve. So the practice plans are really important because you don't have to hit golf balls to get better. You can do other things that make you better whilst you're making a cup of coffee. I don't, which, I mean that's what that's I find is what makes me laugh astonishing,
Speaker 0 00:07:36 Is that we do get, people come for lessons. They've been, you know, they've been somewhere else and they're like, oh, I haven't got time to go and hit a thousands of balls on the ranger. We're like, I don't think we've ever said that, have we?
Speaker 1 00:07:43 You don't need to.
Speaker 0 00:07:44 I don't think we've ever said that honestly, you to. So what are you suggesting then? So if you are listening to us on the way to the golf course or walking the dog hello to your dog, or we are dog people as well. Yeah. What are you gonna recommend that people can do today for their swing
Speaker 1 00:07:57 Then? So while you walking or listening or driving? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want you to start to learn to breathe properly. Oh yeah, yeah. So you can do that so easily. So it's, it's, we call it box breathing, where you breathe in, you hold it, you breathe out, you pause and you repeat. Yeah. And this is the very best way that we've found of getting people to be more relaxed when they're stood over the golf ball. But imagine starting to do that on the journey to the golf course. So you're getting your body into its best physical state where it can move. Well, not only that, we also see a gain in club head speed when you're more relaxed. Anything up to 15% gain in in extra speed,
Speaker 0 00:08:37 Actual 15%. I keep telling you from the vault. But yeah, the thing about the breathing as well, it turns off your parasympathetic nervous system. So basically you are in control of the body's response to stuff. So if you practice this time and time again, you know, your lung, just your lungs get better. You get used to dealing with stress and pressure. So box breathing originally made popular by the Navy Seals. So we're just borrowing their technique. If they know, if they say it's good enough that it's good enough for us, isn't it? Absolutely. So you can start with a four, as Julian says, we sometimes call it retain retained breath. So 4, 4, 4. Or if you can't do four, start with three and then eventually you can get up to eight or even higher. But
Speaker 1 00:09:19 Yeah. And, and so that's, that's the first thing to start with. The second thing to start with that nobody does is let's do it wrong. So let's overtight hold that for two seconds, then release it. Then you know what it feels like to be relaxed. The other thing that people kind of mis mistake is that they think being relaxed means you're going to swing slower, right? And you swing what we call sloppy, but that's not the case. You actually speed up. Yeah, but it feels less effort. That's the astonishing thing. And people go, well how come this is working? It's just that your muscles move fast when they're relaxed. They don't move very fast when they're locked up tight.
Speaker 0 00:10:01 So if you don't like relaxed, you can use calm, you know, a calm state of mind.
Speaker 1 00:10:04 Calm, iss a good word.
Speaker 0 00:10:05 Another podcast, we'll talk about how you keep yourself calm of mind. But yeah, in golf we tend to put ourselves under a lot of pressure, don't we? From the competitive side of things. It can bring out all those, Ooh, I'm not good enough, or I'm putting myself under too much pressure or Yeah. You know, but, but we know from experience, the stories that we have in here, when people stop trying, there's a whole new ball game, isn't it? When people actually stop trying. So that would be my thing for you to take away from our podcast today is stop trying, or at least stop using the word trying. Yeah. You know, you either do or you don't, but trying tends to put a bit of pressure on you doesn't inside the force. So yeah,
Speaker 1 00:10:43 Stop trying. So
Speaker 0 00:10:44 Enjoy yourself instead. Yeah. That if you're on the way to the golf course today, just enjoy the fact that you are in a position to be able to be on the golf course. That'll take your attention away.
Speaker 1 00:10:54 But there's a downside to being more relaxed here. How? What's that? If you are gaining yardage, you're gonna have to rethink your clubbing. Oh yeah. Because we, we had one guy has happened, doesn't it? Who's, who's we've really helped unbelievable what he's doing now with, with his iron play. But he hit a shot. Probably the best shot he's ever hit. That's right. But it went too far out of bounds. Yeah. And he was angry. Yeah. That he's hit it out bounds. Yeah. How can you be angry when you've hit your best golf shot ever? So you do have to be mindful that you could gain yardage, it could put you in trouble over the back of the green. But that's a nice problem to have because you can always start to reign it in. So my advice is if you going to do this, go with this approach. Make sure you go and play some golf on your own. Maybe. I know you're not allowed, but go and hit two or three golf balls on, on, on each hole because you'll start to notice different patterns, different distances, different accuracy as well. But you don't want it to become as a shock if you're playing in a metal competition. So you do need to go and try this when you're playing. Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:12:02 Here's a thought, how about if you just played for pleasure, would that work?
Speaker 1 00:12:06 Yeah, definitely. Would it? Yeah.
Speaker 0 00:12:08 So you know, having like our little stories, you know, we're in mid fifties so we're exploring life and whatever, but yeah. Yeah. Recently I've discovered, you know, just going swimming just for pleasure, not for the lengths or anything, but it makes you feel so relaxed. Would that work you reckon? Totally. Totally. If today's little tipt was just going in, just go and play for
Speaker 1 00:12:25 Pleasure. It totally does that. And do you know who does? Yeah, I like that. Do you know the group of golfers who don't get to play much for pleasure? Who's that ladies? Oh, they always seem to have a competition every week. Yeah. So, and and if you only get to play once or twice a week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're playing in a competitive environment. Yeah. It's really hard. Yeah. To actually go and play for pleasure. Pleasure. So you do have to make time to, to accept playing for pleasure, realize what's possible. Yeah. And then apply it when you're playing in competition. So I feel sorry for ladies sometimes 'cause they, yeah. They don't get to, especially
Speaker 0 00:12:59 In winter, wants to do with that competition in winter. Anyway, we're gonna draw to a close very soon. So the title of today's podcast was, you know how to gain 40 yards in less Than Hour, which is really cool. So just summarizing the things that are gonna work for you then, aren't we? Is little bit about your, your box breathing, practice that wherever you are, little breath out before and then tight and release,
Speaker 1 00:13:22 Tighten release. But releasing the club face correctly is really important. So you should be using your dominant hand, not your non-dominant hand. So if you are playing right-handed and you lead with your left hand, you'll, you're more likely to leave the club face open, lose a lot of distance that way. So we'll learn to use your dominant hand better. We can definitely show people how to do that. No problem at all. And by the way, we can do this online as well. Oh, we do a lot of online
Speaker 0 00:13:48 Teaching. Wait for that. We'll tell you about something really exciting. Yeah. And the other thing was play for pleasure as well, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 00:13:53 Definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 0 00:13:54 Get out there, play for it. And so we hope you've enjoyed it today. Like I say, if you're on the way to the golf course or walking the dark or just lie in bed at night or whatever you do. And we hope that you've enjoyed our voices here from Royal Leamington Spa near Stratford Pan in the uk. So no matter where you are, we are saying hello. The next title of our next podcast is all based on our real stories on the transformation vault. Yep. The golfer who finally stopped keeping his head down, we've got loads of them so I know a hundred percent. So we'll cover that. But as Julian said, we are very excited here at proper golfing to be able to give you personalized. I mean we seriously mean personalized plans through our like proper golfing resources. There's 450 videos, they're no good if you dunno where to start.
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